progressives who agrees with the economist paul krugman on this. any time talking about deficits, we are buying in to the right wing mantra somehow deficits are killing the economy. look at great britain and doing with their austerity plans and doesn't add up. i'm much more of the mind to be proactively looking at infrastructure investment like many of the business advisers told president obama should happen. people from commerce, from industry. i get it. that won't happen as long as house republicans are dead set against it. and what we're left with is unfortunately in my view a detente to put the discussion in the frame the republicans want. what about deficits? we have a jobs crisis in this country. not a deficit crisis. to me, the whole conversation has been pushed to the right further than it should be. >> and karen, on a last note, in anticipation of the president's speech, the white house released numbers on the people affected by the cuts. i believe around 600,000, between 600,000 and 800,000 suffering as a result of cuts to food stamps and other program that is people need t

dealing with the deficit? that sounds logical as a pattern for the speech because they're the hot topics. >> when you're president you can't just deal with one issue and the economy is the top priority for most americans. the president will i think rightly address the issue and talk about the issue of gun violence, definitely talk about climate issue and the issue of immigration and he'll ask congress to do something. this is not the previous congress was not a very active congress and this congress doesn't appear to be shaping up to be much better and the president attempt to in the future act by executive order and make decisions in that way if congress is not willing to do anything and step up to the plate and i think that molly made an excellent point, too, about the messenger and the message of the republicans divided about because the real issue for the gop is not just the message. they can't agree on the messenger, the reason why rubio and paul both giving responses to the president's state of the union address. >> we have seen that and you can have as senator manchin said